Seven shots in caliber .30-30 or .32 Special.". Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. It is important to note that large loads are recommended for this gun and not Winchesters. No mechanical change was made to the rifle. EasterBunny said>>>I have made hundreds, if not thousands of parts with no drawings. It has taken black/brown bear, elk, and almost any size game you care to mention less fearsome than an Alaskan Brown or Polar Bear. a joint venture between hornady and marlin produced some of the fastest, most powerful, and accurate traditional lever rifles extent. It hails from a day, more than a century ago, when riflemen carried their hardware in scabbards and kept their shots short. Always wanted a Volcanic, would it be plausible to make them in 9mm? Well I will put up my Henry Big Boy 44 mag up against any thing out there. In profile, the cartridge looks efficient and muscular. Heres my original board posting with video: Its been great on three deer so far. . I received return Where did you get the 2300 dollar figure ? You can dismiss that as whining on an Internet forum if you want. I see that the quality is back and I am looking at an XT-22TR which I tried and loved. But after walking into my gunsmith, and his first words out of his mouth when he saw I was holding that Martin xt was, front sight ,cant fix it got to be sent marlin for a new Barrel . Dave insists he was careful in listing velocities for the new .33 in the 24-inch barrels to be installed by Marlin. So no, I didnt give Freedom Group/Remington/Marlin (whatever you want to call them) another chance to abuse my better nature. On the contrary, if you have good dimensioning and tolerancing, and good drawings, all the parts will swap. Manufacturing is different. Be aware however that older guns may suffer from the Marlin jam that occurs over time due to one well-known wear point. Recently, I saw a couple of blogs that Remington might have started manufacturing some Retained energy at 400 yards for the 200-grain .338 ME and 180-grain .30-06 bullets are essentially the same at 1,760 ft-lbs. Henry Repeating Arms is not the same company as the maker of the original Henry 1860. Can someone verify whether Marlin is still manufacturing the 338 marlin express, or is it discontinued? As Warren Zevon sang, it aint that pretty at all. The Model 336W with a 20-inch barrel and the Model 336Y with a 16.25-inch barrel in .30-30 and a walnut-finished hardwood stock are the least expensive (MSRP: $548). Today everyone wants things to happen by next week. Ask the customer service rep at Martin if this was a common problem with the rifle, he said no , very rare. Your statement dismisses them as if their getting shafted by Remlin is of no concern. My Marlin 1895 XLR in .45-70 can put 5 rounds through a single jagged hole at 50 yards with a 2-7 power Leupold scope using the 325 grain LeverEvolution ammo. Marlin makes a 338 Marlin Express. Browning's long-action BLR Lightweight '81, with its rotating, front-locking bolt head and detachable box magazine, can accommodate belted magnum rounds as long and energetic as the .300 Winchester Magnum. Now, thanks to an article entitled Marlin Makes a Comeback in theNational Shooting Sports Foundations publication shotbusiness.org, weve got an inside, intimate look at Marlins cataclysmic decline. Total POS. According to what I have read, it appears the problems began after the plant was moved. When I compare the quality of the older 1895G to the Remlin 336BL I wrote about above, it really is night and day. It is an excellent cartridge, and we have written about it extensively on Guns and Shooting Online. Add to Cart See Details. Continue with Recommended Cookies. Since I posted the above comments, I had a chance to acquire a pre-Remington 1895G in .45-70, and so I never did buy a Henry in that caliber. I have probably around 3000 rounds through it with no malfunctions and fit and finish are great. The .338 Marlin Express is Hornady's newest cartridge in a dizzying flurry of new cartridges, but it is not the most powerful one ever chambered in a lever-action rifle. Theres a 45-70 marlin for sale locally. The mechanism worked smoothly, cartridges feeding as if they were designed for the magazine and carrier. You see the lever was not throwing the bolt back far enough to cock and seat the hammer. Marlin and Remington is probably run by accountants. Looks like its another two years till I get one. Now had I been the one to head the merger, then I would have kept production going at the current factory, while I tooled up and proofed the new one! Extensive loading data for the .338 Marlin Express is not yet available. 338MXLR :: Guns.com But of course looking at some Remington 870 Express shotguns, you also get that same feeling. So zeroed, the maximum point blank range (MPBR) of this load is 214 yards (+/- 3 inches). It was money well spent. There is lots of info on the Marlinowners forum and elsewhere on-line about how to distinguish the pre-Freedom Group Marlins from the newer Remlins by serial numbers and stampings. In fact, you have to wonder if its too late for Marlin. Used. The Truth About Guns has done its best to honor, continue and build upon the forums tradition of no-holds-barred product reviews.. Theres no way a Marlin employee didnt notice what I noticed when I handled them. Determined to keep the Model 336 (and other Marlin models) alive, Remington invested in new CNC machinery and the training of employees. Why of course I said why? Could this be a sign that theyre back on track and better things are on the way? Consistent 7 groups is the best it will do at 100 yrds. At the same time lines were being reduced, R&D engineers started a project to complete three-dimensional drawings of all the parts. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. My first rifle was a 39A, then came a 336CS in 35 Remington. An 1894S in 44 Mag and a 444S in 444 Marlin. But the .348's tube magazine shackled it to blunt bullets that quickly fell behind .30-06 spitzers. This skill is not something you can glean off drawings alone. 338 Marlin GunBroker.com Member Forums Had 21 kids over to shoot last night with my 5 22 (Three I had and the two new marlins). Did they screw up? What made the Volcanic action design finally successful was when Winchester bought full control of the company, brought in B. Tyler Henry to convert the things to fire a real rimfire .44 cartridge, and THEN they became Henrys. Im itching for a .44 someday, and it will probably be a Rossi. I sent my 1895cb .45 colt in because it bulged cases. Good job! TOTALLY AGREE WITH ANNOYED MAN 8/23/18 I purchased a Remlin Cowboy 1894 in .45 Colt mid-July. I think you reward good products from a company and cut the legs off the rest. One rifle I racked the lever and it locked up, could not close the lever. Hornady already manufactured the round, with 225- and 270-grain bullets. The fit of the wood to the receiver is flawless. Everything on the Remlin from the cheap blackened UNCHROMED bolt to the cheap ugly blackened unblued steel, to the poorly fitted screws that protruded where they were recessed on the real Marlin to the crude chunky birch stock just screamed POS. Saw a new .30-30 in a shop today. Only time will tell. Never again a Ford. So I thought it would be good to pick me up a .30-30 lever action rifle. quality parts and took a chance, and called their customer service. By the way, did you see last years Remington catalog trying to get everyone to hunt with a camo-coated AR rifles? The other side of this is the manufacturing ramp. SOLD - $529.99. And theres no getting around it: Marlin should have shut down manufacturing completely during thistransition. The company has done major damage to the brand by selling thousands of crap guns. But I repeat.BE CAREFUL before you walk out the door with that Marlin, or you may not like what you see when you get home. Ive recently bought a Marlin and two Henrys. Plus, I didnt have to take any insulting abuse from one of their CS people. The right stock has a tiny gap where it butts up. My gun guy just laughed and said hes been waiting for a henry 45/70 for a few months. Front sight was canted to the right, checkering on butt stock looked like someone sanded it down to nothing ( nearly nonexistent ), chip in the forearm, dent in the pistol grip cap, weak rifling, should be Ballard type rifling as advertised, it actually looks like microgroove rifling, Metal finish was subpar, and wood to metal finish was also bad. 338 Marlin Express for sale at Gunsamerica.com: 946843149 The stock didnt even fit right. i have a 1970 336 that shoots 3 rounds for one hole at 100 yards all factory.. rsvp. The gun is definitely a thumper, but it keeps the bears at bay!! The serial number on the receiver indicates 2009 year of manufacture. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. hadjii Member Posts: 976 . Their lockup is as strong as that of most bolt rifles. What I got back was A rifle that still bulged cases and after 25 shots the front sight fell off , the loading tube is sloppy in the dove tail( it;s held in place by the forearm) and a screw fell out of the receiver. Used to be a dozen would be in any gun store for right around $300. I dont trust any Cerberus-owned company to make a decent product. Despite what I knew, I tried to get an 1895 SBL anyway. I substituted a XS Sight Systems set, with a rear ghost ring on a rail, and a white front blade. Depend on MUNITIONS EXPRESS to bring you a multitude of money-saving rebates on ammo everyday. The .300 and .338 Ruger Compact Magnums came along just last year. At my shop we will no longer carry any new made rifle from any of these three. so the tang at the bottom of the grip was not flush with the stock. Compared to the 1894 rifle that I had bought years ago this was quite frustrating, but I did persevere and now have a fine .22 lever action rifle. The wood is drop-dead gorgeous. Im going to give it a damn good inspection before I pay the balance due upon receipt. Therefore, FG moved the crap equipment and left most of the craftsmen behind. Hell, run them through a 3D scanner. Never one to sit still, Dave told me even before the RCMs appeared that he planned to fashion a lever-action round to trump all others. The rifling twist for almost all modern .338 cartridges is 1 turn in 10 inches, which should also be suitable for the .338 Marlin, although a 1 in 12 twist would probably also work well. We were dealing with equipment that was oldin some cases, more than 60 years old. My Marlin 39A was purchased in late 2010 and was sadly an exercise in patience to get it operating at an acceptable level. If Hornady's LEVERevolution ammo hasn't compelled you to give John Mahlon Marlin's classic big-game rifles another look, maybe the new .338 Marlin Express will. The deluxe version of the Texan has a fancy walnut stock, machine-cut engraving, and a gold-colored trigger. Unfortunately, longtime Marlin employees were not included in the move, and the quality of the Model 336 hit rock bottom. The difference: RCM rounds can deliver those speeds from 20-inch barrels. All Rights Reserved. The author fired this sub-minute group with a Leupold-scoped Marlin in .338 ME with Hornady ammunition. No Thank You! Their Henry original is the rifle they should have designed in the first place, and Id buy one, but not at $2300. Feeding it loosened it up This action froze open when worked and the hammer had to be manually depressed to un-jamn the bolt every single time. It would certainly sell. Several trips over a couple of months punctuated by very careful filing of the extractor and testing at the range before it was working 100% with all ammo types. You dont and youre happy with it. The TORO (Taurus Optics Ready Option) is touted as the first-ever optics-ready revolver, and being a sucker for red dots and handguns, I had to try it. Only after we fully warn the customer that is, because it is now like winning 50$ off a scratch ticket, 1 in 50 is a winner. Gone are all versions of the 450 Marlin. That's all the muscle your tender clavicle will want from a rifle with an alloy receiver and weighing 63/4 pounds with a 22-inch barrel. I am convinced that the lack of popularity and commercial success of the previously mentioned medium bore cartridges is directly attributable to their recoil, which is greater than most shooters are willing to tolerate in a woods rifle of reasonable weight. I then posted a video showing the safety failing and the gun firing. TESTED: Hodgdon LEVERevolution Powder - Ultimate Reloader They still make the Winchester 94s (built by Miroku in Japan), but I think the new ones are only available in .30-30 and .38-55, not in any of the pistol calibers. I dont HAVE to deal with them. Whereas the .308 Marlin Express features a thinner web than the .307 Winchester (for added capacity), the new .33 has a thicker web than the .376 Steyr (for added strength). .338 MARLIN EXPRESS .35 REM .357 MAG . I have owned a few over the years though I never was a huge Marlin fan because it seemed the majority had pistol grips rather than straight stocks on the lever-guns. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. Gone are all versions of the .308 Marlin Express and .338 Marlin Express. The rifle is accurate and I could not be happier. That far off, a 180-grain .30-06 bullet started at 2,700 fps strikes 21 1/2 inches low. Reminds me of several years ago, they had the CEO of Ford on a radio show. Was on the stiff side brand new. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Rifle Ammo for Sale Online | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Only Marlin I still have is a .22 mag bolt action rifle that I cant shoot because theres no ammo available. The shorter case has about 3.5 percent less capacity, but Hornady more than makes up for the difference by loading the same type of special propellant in the .308 Marlin Express as the company loads in its Light Magnum family of ammunition (which is slated to be discontinued; see Wayne van Zwoll's article on the new Superformance ammo in this . I wonder how long until ammo makers stop producing these two cartridges? At the range it jammed on my first cartridge, so hard you could not move the lever. The .338 Marlin Express is a cartridge developed by Marlin Firearms and Hornady. "And to get the sectional density we want, the bullet would have to be quite heavy.". Not any longer. Im aware that there has been a negative gap in Marlin workmanship in recent years but I believe Marlin is coming back & I hope the brand survives because of it. Like its sibling, the .308 Marlin Express, the .338 traces a flat trajectory. They didnt do ANY of that. I am looking at an 1895G. 4 bore rifle for sale on GunsAmerica. Buy a 4 bore rifle onl The Return of Lever-Action Rifles - Petersen's Hunting [2], Whereas the .308 Marlin Express began by modifying the .307 Winchester, Hornady and Marlin engineers started with a previous collaboration between Hornady and the Austrian arms maker Steyr, the .376 Steyr, when designing the .338 Marlin Express. The receiver was all discolored and scratched and I never even loaded the rifle ever yet. What Big-Green has been doing for the last 20 years. Recoil was stiffer than that of my .308 ME. You can always find one in a gun store. 308 Marlin Express; 308 Winchester (7.62 x 51 mm) 32 Winchester Special; 32-20 Winchester; 338 Federal; 338 Lapua; 338 Marlin Express; 338 Rem Ultra Mag; 338 Ruger Compact Magnum; 338 Winchester Magnum; 348 Winchester; 35 Remington; 35 Whelen; 350 Legend; 358 Winchester; 375 H&H; 375 Ruger; 375 Winchester; When I insisted the gun had a problem the forum admins sent me a private email saying I was kicked off the board. Given the time frames of the takeover and subsequent move of the plant, it appears this piece is composed of parts made in North Haven and assembled there under Remington supervision. in 2009 hornady's ballistics dept under the direction of dave emary developed a cartridge with a ballistics match to the 30-06 180gr load. Marlin 70PSS - For Sale :: Shop Online :: Guns.com Now you need to make sure that you did so in a manner that results in parts that are compatible with your installed base. I want a new one that the woods match damn it! Workers revolted and broke machines, failed to assemble equipment or inspect things. very close to taking it home but decided to check online first. It is mind-boggling to youngsters today, most of whom equate manufacturing and dimensioned products with CAD/CAM systems. Until recently, Hornady offered a 200 grain flat point Interlock bullet (#3315) that would be excellent for the proposed .338 Marlin. Maybe I just lucked out, but I love my 1894, and Ill probably sometimes still use it for deer, and its one incredible option as a home defense carbine. They also dont come in Stainless. Hornady's focus over the last decade has been on exposed-hammer, rear-locking lever rifles with tube magazines the Marlins and Winchesters whose ancestors defined the saddle carbine, won the West and became archetypal woods guns for whitetail hunters. Hornady engineers then looked to the projectile for the new cartridge. Estimated Value *Using 80% condition for calculating used Values. Dont forget the crap Winchester put out in the lat 60s and Early 70s. Recently (2017), I was interested in a Marlin 30/30 model 336 for a truck/deer gun. 338 Marlin. But it did apply to the system we were delivering. Ive been burned more than once by Freedom Group owned companies. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. Although the thicker case webbing reduced capacity, new powders allow the .338 Marlin Express to achieve velocities similar to the .338 Federal with significantly lower pressures. We need every gun company that can stay solvent to remain solvent. HIGH STANDARD SHORTY MODEL 6551 M-4 AR-15 556/223 16 INCH CHROME BORE HAS A2 FRONT SIGHT WITH. Its practical effective range on CXP2 game would be limited by its trajectory. For the others out there, lets say we make 10 complicated mechanical widgets that that way (with +/- 0.005 required on the mating surfaces), then disassemble them, and put all the parts in a bin and mix them up. The .308 Marlin Express and the .338 Marlin Express cartridges arrived in 2006, and for those chamberings, the Model 336XLR was given a laminated stock and a longer barrel. My 2018 Marlin 1895 in 45/70 works fantastic! As someone who doesnt have 30+ years of machining experience but owns 2 guns that dont extract exactly as youve described it, what did you do to fix it? Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. We hoped to do that in late 2012, however we were not as far along as we would have liked to have been, says Fink. The action was quite smooth, and the guns accuracy was very good. The .338 Marlin Express was designed to produce performance similar to the .30-06 Springfield. Well I just bought the Marlin 336BL 30/30 and I inspected it but briefly at the gun store. The trajectory should be flat enough to allow a point blank range in excess of 200 yards. We'd run into space problems with bigger hulls; besides, bullet speeds above 2,700 fps often cost more than they're worth." Very disappointing for a $700 30-30. performance. I ran the (estimated) numbers and found that a .338 Marlin rifle weighing 8 pounds and shooting a 200 grain bullet at a MV of 2400 fps should generate about 19 ft. lbs. Mazeltov. My brothers was bought new in 1971and my dads was older, lots older, but he kept it in great shape. As the finger lever is swung to its closed position, it elevates a vertical steel locking bolt at the rear of the receiver into engagement with a deep slot on the underside of the breechbolt. | Gun #: 936172940. Shooting is near end. For more than a century, bullets for straight-tube magazines were stuck with blunt, ballistically inefficient noses. SMLE (No1 MkIII) tolerances were so tight that parts from rifles made in several UK manufacturers, South Africa, Australia, and India are interchangeable (well, the Indian production was known for slightly looser tolerances but can the adjusted to fit). That tenon has drilled and tapped holes on either side of it, to which the fore-end tip (part #26 on the attached image link) is attached by means of a screw on either side. The 338MXLR differs from the 338MX in that it has a longer barrel and an American black and grey laminated hardwood stock. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. marlin 444 rifle for Sale | Sportsman's Outdoor Superstore The 39A is a true thing of beauty and my pride and joy. Purpose: general use truck gun/hunting rifle when some future politician gets a wild hair up his/her ass, and .308 Winchester to feed my two .308 bolt guns and my SCAR 17S gets hard to find again. Its clear that the 39A is the better quality rifle, but not so much so that Ill ever sell the 1894, even though Ill be using (Indiana, my home state, legalized some conventional high powered rifles for the very first time for deer!) Had they done the right thing, they could have had good quality Remlins coming off the production line by 2008/2009 at the latest. And once we got that straightened out, we had to fix a problem with the forend tip, forend tip tenon, and forend tip tenon screws none of which lined up properly anymore once the magazine tube was properly aligned. Yes, an experienced machinist can make ONE widget with no drawings, by writing his calculations and dimensions on an envelope. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. Certainly a .338 wildcat based on the .308 Marlin case is likely, almost inevitable, when .308 Marlin brass becomes available. rounds. My wife happens to like the slightly heavier pull and is not fond of my Savage Mark II with 3lb pull. But with about 250 rounds through it and a switch to Tetra grease on the bolt and hammer, it is significantly smoother than new. There is also lots of information on-line on how to replace/repair this wear part, and of course gunsmiths all know how to replace the worn part. Doesn't bode well for this cartridge either. This rifle was bought with rough use in mind. The result was a medium bore elk cartridge that kicked about as hard as the .348 and likewise failed to catch on with the average woods hunter. I laugh, because as a seasoned Tool & Die maker, I have made hundreds, if not thousands of parts with no drawings But maybe the pissed off, soon to be jobless employees of Marlin, made the drawings disapear! The proof mark on the barrel is Remington(REP) on the of barrel near the receiver. The manufacturing equipment in North Haven was horrible. I purchased a new marlin 1895 SBL in the spring of 2014. To save Marlin from imploding, Remington invested both dollars and manpower in a multifaceted approach to achieve the kind of quality that had slipped during the transition. Having just purchased a new to me but manufactured pre sale of the company Marlin lever gun (45/70), I can tell you that the newly manufactured lever guns receive almost nothing but horrible reviews (invloving both quality control, and customer service or lack thereof). Looks like Marlin is cutting loose slow sellers TTAG says, Back in the day, you had to read a gun review very carefully to pick-up any hint that a firearm was a POS.Thankfully, internet gun forums arrived to end the information blackout.
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